I have checked with an "apollo solo", there is no direct signal from the card to the minimeters, it only comes from the desktop and it is not the real signal, about 9db less, I have to route the signal to +9 but in the end it is still not exact I use it to have references and it bothers me that I can't have the exact relationship.
Hey! Sorry you’re running into this. In 14.2 Apple broke the audio capture with external interfaces. I added the trim slider to help compensate. I opened a ticket with Apple and am hoping for a fix in a future macOS update. For now I would recommend using the trim slider until a fix is available… alternatively, there are third party options that may help: https://minimeters.app/help/audio-macos/
This looks so great, but I'm concerned that it won't work on my system because the system requirements say it doesn't work with ASIO. Does this mean if I'm using Ableton Live with the ASIO Audio Driver Type on Windows 11, it will not work? Please let me know!
Unfortunately due to the nature of ASIO it does not allow intercepting the audio of the device for applications like monitoring or recording.
However, MiniMeters will still work with the MiniMetersServer plugin. You can simply select "MiniMeters Plugin" in the audio device section of MiniMeters and add the plugin to your master channel in Ableton! Definitely give the demo a try to see if it works well with your setup.
Yeah this totally works! I just put the MiniMetersServer plugin at the end of my master chain and it reads the signal into MiniMeters with no problem. Best $10 plugin purchase I've made in a while! As some advice, I feel that you shouldn't even say that it doesn't work with ASIO because you've developed a workaround with the plugin, so it does indeed work with ASIO if you use the plugin
Hey! Sorry you're running into this! Is the screen fully black or are you able to open the Settings pane? If you can open the settings then I would recommend checking out the Help section's Audio Routing articles.
Alternatively, if you have the ability to reach out over Discord I can help you better there for sure. If it's a more serious bug I will gladly work with you to get it working for you and others.
Hey scnunn! The latest update (0.8.18) may have addressed this issue depending on what was causing it. Could you please give it a try and see if it works for you now?
Thanks for the reply. The modules are all in line with one another horizontally. what would be a good idea would be to have them Vertical as this can work better depending on people displaying monitors or room on their screens
the other thing that I tend to be doing is "pinning and un-pinning" the plugin GUI as things get lost behind or Im running out of screen space.
is there a way to create a hotkey or shortcut to toggle on/off "pin & un-pin" or to minimise and re-open the GUI
Ahh gotcha. I will definitely be supporting vertical and horizontal layouts, as well as a custom layout mode in v1.0. At the moment it's just horizontal and popped out modes.
and while i'm at it :D another amazing feature would be to add reference curve overlays for the spectrum, like for a example a pink noise curve... vision4x has this and it is awesome... Don't get me wrong, i don't want to appear greedy, just want to give suggestions to make this even better! and would definitely pay again for an upgrade including those two features
would you consider to add one more meter to your already amazing tool? I'm specifically looking for a stereo metering tool like this one, because is so great to read and very helpful, and other than the ADPTR tool (wich isn't customisable like yours is), i couldn't find any. i guess a lot of people are looking for this... thanks in advance! all the best and keep up the great work!
Ok, so... an annoying thing has started to happen ever since i updated to v0.8.16. idk how to explain, but it resets the location every time i close and open MiniMeters.
For example, i move it down to the bottom left of my screen and close it, and the next time i open MiniMeters it resets itself to the default location in the top right of the screen. Previously, it saved the location so i didn't need to do anything.
It's just a minor ''issue'' or ''bug'' i noticed, if it even is a bug. idk.
Hey! Sorry you're running into this issue. I don't believe I have changed anything in the way window position is saved in the last version. Could you let me know what OS you're on and if you have "Reposition Offscreen Windows" selected in the settings page?
Yeah, i'm on Windows 10 and yes i do have the "Reposition Offscreen Windows" selected. I honestly have no idea what that setting is even for, but i think it has always been selected. I know i haven't touched it earlier, at least.
I tried to replicate here on my Windows machine here with the latest version of MiniMeters and the window remains where I leave it after quitting and reopening.
The "Reposition Offscreen Windows" setting moves a window back on screen in the case of a display configuration change. Such as removing a monitor. It may be worth turning it off and seeing if that fixes the issue for you. If changing that setting doesn't help, please try the steps listed here. If you're still having issues let me know and I can offer more assistance.
Ohh, alright i get it! I've got "Reposition Offscreen Windows" turned off, and it happened again. I'm so confused, since i have no clue what causes it.
I've been trying to replicate it myself, but it seems to happen at random and not every single time now, weirdly enough. So, i'll try those steps you linked!
Hi, since updating to macOS 14.2 it seems that the input gain running in desktop audio mode has somehow changed? (noticed in both v0.8.14 and 15).
For example: Playing audio files that peak at 0dB (and can confirm from the meters on my interface that these are indeed at 0dB) would usually display on the minimeters waveform meter "maxed out" filling the whole window, for lack of a better term. But since the 14.2 update it seems closer to -14dB (this goes for the readouts on all the modules, not just waveform).
I tried messing with the settings a bit and removing and re-adding minimeters to the desktop recording permissions, but no luck.
Not sure if it's an OS thing, or something that I can troubleshoot further?
Thank you for pointing this out. I just had someone check this for me and they are seeing the issue as well. Something changed on Apple’s side. I’m going to update my development machine and try to find a workaround for this issue. Sorry for the inconvenience.
No worries, I’m happy to help out further if needed.
It’s always frustrating when something like that changes out of the blue and you then have to spend time and resources playing catch up.
I wonder if there’s some sort of way to implement a gain stage in the app before the signal hits the meters? So in settings you could manually set the amplitude, if desired.
I will add the trim setting very soon. I don't really recommend this, but at the moment you can sort of hack your way to doing that by opening the settings file at "~/Library/Preferences/MiniMeters/settings.json" and adding or changing the line that says "trim": 0 to the decibel value you'd like to gain the signal by. The modified audio section should look like this:
I might play around with that when I have some downtime, thanks!
If I make a copy of the unaltered .json file, and put that back before updating to the new version (when released) it should technically revert the settings to default, without potentially messing something up in the future install, right?
Yeah you can back up the settings file! Also, unfortunately, I just updated my development machine to 14.2 and am seeing the issue only when using an external audio device. If it's not too much trouble, could you let me know what audio interface you're using on your primary machine? I am going to have to make a report for this to submit to Apple.
Hey! I understand your apprehension. I would prefer that screen not show up on Windows. MiniMeters is code-signed with an OV certificate and if you click "More info" in that window you will see my personal information that verifies that it is coming from me and not somehow tampered with. If you see that info it should be safe.
Microsoft claims that if enough people download an application that screen will disappear but it appears that the only way I can remove it is by switching certificate types. I will do that in the near future, but it requires me to spend quite a bit of money so I have been putting it off. Sorry about the inconvenience.
Hi, I've really been enjoying MiniMeters, I was just wondering one thing:
Both the Waveform meter and Stereo meter share the same colour scheme representing low, mid and high frequencies, yet the only options for the Spectrum analyser are the static colour line in FFT mode and the seemingly arbitrary red/magenta colours in "bar/both" modes, I think it would be awesome and quite intuitive if the colours of the bars in the bar/both mode followed the same colour transitions of the frequency ranges like the other meters. :)
Thanks for the suggestion. I have considered the same thing, but the "arbitrary" colors are simply assigned to volume. You can customize them in the theme settings if you'd like.
Love your app. I've only had it two days and it's already improved my production workflow considerably.
Four feature requests:
It would be super handy if the modules could be snapped into multiple rows and/or columns. The current "one row or floating" setup is a bit difficult to adjust. It gets the job done, but is way too fiddly. Adding a "layout" option with different frames to select from would be great.
I'd love to be able to alt-click, and have the reference markers "stick" to the meters (until a new click is detected). Would make it way easier to judge gain changes in the waveform and spectrum views.
Button/shortcut to freeze a "ghosted" snapshot overlay (at 25-50% opacity) in most of the meters.
Switchable DBU labels in the peak meter (can't gain-stage without 'em).
Also, why is the Hz ceiling fixed? A lot of us are working at >96khz, and definitely producing/manipulating frequencies beyond the current window limit.
Hey! Thanks for the suggestions. MiniMeters is meant to remain simple and the end goal is approachability. I don't want to increase the complexity too much.
1. In the 1.0 release there will be a far more customizable layout system. 2. This is is a good idea but I don't really have plans to add this at the moment. 3. Also a great idea. I will consider something along these lines. 4. I don't personally use those in my music making workflow so I have no real baseline idea of how or why to add this. If you have any resources that will help me understand the usefulness of this I can consider using it.
As for higher sample rates, I will likely add 48khz support as that is commonly used in film. For higher sampling rates it might be best to look elsewhere. MiniMeters is meant to simply show you what you're hearing and to provide a useful too during music creation.
Hey, would it be possible to implement a way to change the speed of the waveform like I've visualized here? I was sound designing kicks, and thought it would be nice to see the kick's shape with a bit more detail, which could probably be achieved by making the waveform move faster.
It's currently like this in the first image, but I manually slowed down my sample to get more detail on the waveform in the second image. It could maybe work with the oscilloscope too. Also this annoying uneven sub is exactly what I'm trying to work on lol.
Anyways thanks for making this amazing tool, I haven't yet bought the full version, but I am planning to do so once I've used this for a bit longer.
Also, it would be great to create a button that, when checked, This information will show up only by hovering the mouse because it is disturbing when it is always there as a default.
Another great option would be to create an option to play with its speed because, from what I see now, it is jumping very fast from one peak to another, and it isn't easy to read because it shows the info only for half a second or so. Maybe the solution would be to tell it to read only every second or so and not every bit—just an idea.
1) It would be great if you will create the option to view the waveform and history in different modules because then it would be broader and clearer.
2) It would be great if you will create the option to set up the width of the waveform because now that's the only width that the waveform can be, and it is very hard to notice dynamic changes like that (the track or master volume does not affect it, which is a good thing).
Thanks for the suggestions. I am aware of the desire to move them to separate modules. I will consider options on how to do that correctly in v1.0. I have a few ideas how to make that user-friendly.
When you refer to width I'm unsure if you mean volume or speed. I plan to expand on both of those options in v1.0 regardless. But any insight would be helpful.
Thank you, I'm not a plugin expert, but it seems like that knob of input gain will be the solution. It should not affect the sound level in DAW, only the graphic level in the plugin.
In addition to the above, it would be great, but it may be a bit complex to create, a button that when checked, will automatically normalize the last maximum peak level and put it in the zero. This will ensure that the plugin width is used all the way and that we are not missing some peaks that go above the zero line—just an idea. Maybe you will figure it better.
Hello, I assume you also sent a message in the Discord this morning. I am sorry you're running into issues. If you are indeed the same individual I am willing to provide support or a refund there. If you would prefer to reach out to itch.io for a refund you can do it via this page: https://itch.io/support
As I also said in the Discord server: I would recommend trying these steps if you have not already tried them: https://minimeters.app/help/behaving/
I can also provide any support needed. I am sure we can get this working on your machine, but I would just need your PC Specs, and OS to get started there. I am willing to help here, Discord, or via my contact email: support@minimeters.app
After I opened the program, it couldn't be found at all on my desktop, but it is currently running and can be captured using OBS. May I ask what is the solution? The same result applies to reinstalling after uninstallation.
Hey, sorry you're running into this issue. This usually happens after removing a monitor that was plugged in and had MiniMeters on it. If you follow the steps here it should correct it: https://minimeters.app/help/behaving/
Afterwards, make sure "Reposition Offscreen Windows" is enabled in the settings and it should no longer happen. Let me know if you need additional help!
Just wanted to say big ups for your product. Honestly been a game changer for me. I have been highly recommending it to all my other fellow producers. really looking forward to what you bring to V1. Glad to have a notification with lots of updates.
I have a small request, not sure if this is possible in your current version. But It would be nice to be able to see a clear distinction to M/S. For example please see the attached screenshot of Span for an example Purple for Mid and pink for Side
Thanks again for your work and I look forward to your future updates. BeNNs.
Hey! You can definitely edit the color of each line but there is not an option for backgrounds that match at the moment. Take a look at the Light_Shard theme. It looks like the following:
Can you please show instructions on changing the colors like in the Image above? I just downloaded the last version, and I don't have the option to change the colors like in the Image. And I want to stay on direct theme while doing it.
You an access the file by following the directions here: https://minimeters.app/help/theming/ Make sure to rename the file as Direct.txt gets overwritten at launch.
Hey, sorry you’re running into this. I few other Windows users pointed this out to me but I have not been able to replicate it on my Windows machines. Could you tell me what audio devices you’re using on you PC? If you’d like to reach out for more personalized support you can email me at support@minimeters.app
I’m actively looking for a solution here so any info would be helpful. Thank you!
Hey, so im having the issue where I pin the plugin and everything works fine. But as soon as i full screen my DAW, (Ableton 11) it disappears and i cant seem to get it back on with my DAW being full screen. Any help? Cheers!
Hey! Unfortunately on both macOS and Windows there are restrictions on apps overlaying full screen apps. For instance, on macOS they only allow menubar apps to overlay fullscreen apps. I’m working on that but it will take some time.
Thanks! I was just making sure I wasnt the only one with this issue. BTW works perfect on WINDOWS/PC. Only having this issue with MACOS. Besides that, this plugin is awesome and great customer service :)
I just bought it, but I can only run it via the "Application" from the folder where I downloaded it. How do I run it as a VST within Ableton? I've moved the .dll files to my VST3 folder but it doesn't appear after rescanning it. Any ideas?
Hey! Sorry you're running into this issue. I'm not sure what .dll files you've copied to your VST3 folder but VST3 plugins have the .vst3 extension and often appear like folders.
Please try running the installer again to ensure the plugin has installed correct. It should install to C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 (Steinberg Article about this). And make sure your DAW is looking for VST3 plugins in that folder. If you're still having issues let me know.
I just reinstalled it in the correct location and the only VST3 file included is the MiniMetersServer.vst3 file. Is that what should be happening or should there be another file in the folder once I've installed it?
That's correct! If you open that plugin in your DAW and then select "MiniMeters Plugin" from the "Audio Device" section in MiniMeters' settings page you should be receiving your DAWs audio correctly.
Hi! I just bought MiniMeters and I wanted to run it on my 2nd monitor which is 1080x1920 and it's flipped vertically, but I can't seem to get minimeters narrow enough to fit. I didn't know if there is a way to shrink it more, or what I would really like to see is a way to put it on the left side and have it run up and down vertically instead of horizontal. Thank you for your time!
Hey! Sorry you’re running into that limitation. As of the current version (0.8.12) you can pop out the modules and create whatever layout you’d like. I believe disabling some modules may also allow for it to shrink more. v1.0 will have more customizable layouts that may suit your needs though.
Hey! I'm sorry you're running into issues. I'm curious what it looks like on your end as I don't have an external GPU to test with at the moment.
MiniMeters does send quite a bit of data to the GPU every frame and I assume the latency of an external GPU is the bottleneck here. I am rewriting the graphics side of things right now with the intention of better supporting external GPUs and graphics adapters without acceleration which should improve your situation. Unfortunately, I don't have an ETA at the moment but I am aiming for the next few months. If you cannot wait you're welcome to reach out at support (at) minimeters.app
I'm unsure if this is a bug or user error, but I have Ableton open on my main monitor (screen 1), and MiniMeters open on my laptop screen (screen 2). When I remove my main monitor display, it shifts everything to the laptop screen (screen 1). Now, if I open MiniMeters again, for a split second, it opens in the top left corner and then hides itself, almost as if MiniMeters still thinks there are two screens connected. I've tried using Win + Arrow Keys to move MiniMeters, but it seems to have no effect.
Hey! Sorry you're running into this. I previously had it automatically move windows back on screen when a display was disconnected, but a related issue caused me to default to turning that off. This will be fixed in the next update (0.8.13) which will be out soon.
In the meantime if you're the type to mess around with settings files you're welcome to navigate to `%AppData\MiniMeters`, open `settings.json` and add or set `"reposition_offscreen_windows" to true` Alternatively feel free to reach out on the MiniMeters Discord and I can help you modify the file, or modify it and send it back to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Me parece lo mejor!! si ya midiese el pico maximo en dBs y te dijera la correlacion estereo seria mas perfecto de lo que es ya, mis enhorabuena un salud0!!
This is the plugin I've been looking for all this time.
I think it would be great if the colors could be customized separately and saved as own theme. so I can change the theme according to the mood of the music genre that I make because color is very influential in finding ideas in my opinion.
Hey, I love MiniMeters thank you for developing it!
I would love to see a stereo spectroscope like Goodhertz CanOpener. Since the RGB Setting in the Stereometer is hard to read, honestly. You could rotate it sideways and have L up and R down. Just a suggestion!
Minimeters doesn't seem to be working at all for me OS 10.14.6 Mojave. Went through all the different troubleshooting help, and read through all these comments for any potential solutions. Can't pick up any system audio and it isn't popping up in my plugin list in Pro Tools either, and minimeters is in the correct installation path for CLAP, Components, and VST3. Will keep giving it a go on the demo, but this is holding me back from purchasing.
Hey! Sorry you’re running into issues. Pro Tools doesn’t support VST3 or CLAP. Unless you’re using a wrapper it definitely will not show up. I am looking into building an AAX version for Pro Tools user.
As for picking up system audio: that is only supported on macOS Ventura or newer. Apple only recently added support for that in Ventura: for alternative options see here: https://minimeters.app/help/audio-macos/
Let me know if you still have issues or questions.
Apologies about the OS confusion, that's my fault. Okay good to know, I guess I got a little to excited about this and hoped it would work on my system.
I’m not sure of the capabilities of ZGameEditor. I have not experimented with it yet. But if the demo works in the way you expect then the full version should as well.
hey guys I have a question i'm on 8.3 and want to update to 8.12 but when I put my email in it says theres no email with that account... :( help i want to update
Hi, I encounted a problem recently where I am unable to find the minimeters window. When I open the application it just shows when i hover over it but it is no where to be found on my screen. Is there a way to solve this issue?
Hey! Sorry you're running into this. Likely the window is simply offscreen. This happens when display layouts change. An easy way to fix would be to follow these instructions. This may also work however I have not personally tried it: Move offscreen windows back on screen.
You could also open the settings.json file and adjust the window position there, but the above steps should fix it. I'm looking into a better solution for this as on some systems repositioning the window automatically when it was offscreen would cause a hang so I removed that in a previous version.
Hey! I recently downloaded the demo and I saw that it said that the demo was limited for only waveform and luf. But mine just says currently set as primary instance. I don't know if its just the demo or if I put it in ableton wrong. Just wanted to make sure before buying but it looks awesome!
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Is it compatible with Mac Sonoma 14.4?
I have checked with an "apollo solo", there is no direct signal from the card to the minimeters, it only comes from the desktop and it is not the real signal, about 9db less, I have to route the signal to +9 but in the end it is still not exact I use it to have references and it bothers me that I can't have the exact relationship.
Hey! Sorry you’re running into this. In 14.2 Apple broke the audio capture with external interfaces. I added the trim slider to help compensate. I opened a ticket with Apple and am hoping for a fix in a future macOS update. For now I would recommend using the trim slider until a fix is available… alternatively, there are third party options that may help: https://minimeters.app/help/audio-macos/
Hey rasmibeats! I just released v0.8.18 which addresses this issue. If you are still running into trouble let me know!
This looks so great, but I'm concerned that it won't work on my system because the system requirements say it doesn't work with ASIO. Does this mean if I'm using Ableton Live with the ASIO Audio Driver Type on Windows 11, it will not work? Please let me know!
Hey randose,
Unfortunately due to the nature of ASIO it does not allow intercepting the audio of the device for applications like monitoring or recording.
However, MiniMeters will still work with the MiniMetersServer plugin. You can simply select "MiniMeters Plugin" in the audio device section of MiniMeters and add the plugin to your master channel in Ableton! Definitely give the demo a try to see if it works well with your setup.
Yeah this totally works! I just put the MiniMetersServer plugin at the end of my master chain and it reads the signal into MiniMeters with no problem. Best $10 plugin purchase I've made in a while! As some advice, I feel that you shouldn't even say that it doesn't work with ASIO because you've developed a workaround with the plugin, so it does indeed work with ASIO if you use the plugin
Glad it works. I can find a way to word it better as well.
Thanks again. Looking forward to any future updates or other programs from you
So I purchased Minimeters recently and its super buggy. The screen just stays black and doesn't work. Do you know what might be causing this issue?
Hey! Sorry you're running into this! Is the screen fully black or are you able to open the Settings pane? If you can open the settings then I would recommend checking out the Help section's Audio Routing articles.
Alternatively, if you have the ability to reach out over Discord I can help you better there for sure. If it's a more serious bug I will gladly work with you to get it working for you and others.
Hey scnunn! The latest update (0.8.18) may have addressed this issue depending on what was causing it. Could you please give it a try and see if it works for you now?
Loving the plugin I wish I bought it sooner. be cool if you could stack the windows on top of each other as a drag & drop
Hey thanks for picking it up... Could you elaborate on what you mean? I'm not 100% sure I understand.
Thanks for the reply. The modules are all in line with one another horizontally. what would be a good idea would be to have them Vertical as this can work better depending on people displaying monitors or room on their screens
the other thing that I tend to be doing is "pinning and un-pinning" the plugin GUI as things get lost behind or Im running out of screen space.
is there a way to create a hotkey or shortcut to toggle on/off "pin & un-pin" or to minimise and re-open the GUI
Ahh gotcha. I will definitely be supporting vertical and horizontal layouts, as well as a custom layout mode in v1.0. At the moment it's just horizontal and popped out modes.
Awesome program, looking forward to 1.0!
hello! When that 1.0 will be released? I’m very looking for that full screen working because I’m on laptop and every pixel count 😅
I am actively working on it every day, but I do not have a release date at the moment.
and while i'm at it :D
another amazing feature would be to add reference curve overlays for the spectrum, like for a example a pink noise curve... vision4x has this and it is awesome... Don't get me wrong, i don't want to appear greedy, just want to give suggestions to make this even better! and would definitely pay again for an upgrade including those two features
would you consider to add one more meter to your already amazing tool? I'm specifically looking for a stereo metering tool like this one, because is so great to read and very helpful, and other than the ADPTR tool (wich isn't customisable like yours is), i couldn't find any. i guess a lot of people are looking for this... thanks in advance! all the best and keep up the great work!
Cant believe how good this is for $10. Thank you so much!!
Ok, so... an annoying thing has started to happen ever since i updated to v0.8.16. idk how to explain, but it resets the location every time i close and open MiniMeters.
For example, i move it down to the bottom left of my screen and close it, and the next time i open MiniMeters it resets itself to the default location in the top right of the screen.
Previously, it saved the location so i didn't need to do anything.
It's just a minor ''issue'' or ''bug'' i noticed, if it even is a bug. idk.
Hey! Sorry you're running into this issue. I don't believe I have changed anything in the way window position is saved in the last version. Could you let me know what OS you're on and if you have "Reposition Offscreen Windows" selected in the settings page?
Thanks,
Joe
Yeah, i'm on Windows 10 and yes i do have the "Reposition Offscreen Windows" selected.
I honestly have no idea what that setting is even for, but i think it has always been selected. I know i haven't touched it earlier, at least.
I tried to replicate here on my Windows machine here with the latest version of MiniMeters and the window remains where I leave it after quitting and reopening.
The "Reposition Offscreen Windows" setting moves a window back on screen in the case of a display configuration change. Such as removing a monitor. It may be worth turning it off and seeing if that fixes the issue for you. If changing that setting doesn't help, please try the steps listed here. If you're still having issues let me know and I can offer more assistance.
Ohh, alright i get it!
I've got "Reposition Offscreen Windows" turned off, and it happened again.
I'm so confused, since i have no clue what causes it.
I've been trying to replicate it myself, but it seems to happen at random and not every single time now, weirdly enough.
So, i'll try those steps you linked!
how do you update ? do i just re-download minimeters from this website?
Yeah you should be able to just download and install over the version you currently have installed.
Hi, since updating to macOS 14.2 it seems that the input gain running in desktop audio mode has somehow changed? (noticed in both v0.8.14 and 15).
For example: Playing audio files that peak at 0dB (and can confirm from the meters on my interface that these are indeed at 0dB) would usually display on the minimeters waveform meter "maxed out" filling the whole window, for lack of a better term. But since the 14.2 update it seems closer to -14dB (this goes for the readouts on all the modules, not just waveform).
I tried messing with the settings a bit and removing and re-adding minimeters to the desktop recording permissions, but no luck.
Not sure if it's an OS thing, or something that I can troubleshoot further?
Thank you for pointing this out. I just had someone check this for me and they are seeing the issue as well. Something changed on Apple’s side. I’m going to update my development machine and try to find a workaround for this issue. Sorry for the inconvenience.
No worries, I’m happy to help out further if needed.
It’s always frustrating when something like that changes out of the blue and you then have to spend time and resources playing catch up.
I wonder if there’s some sort of way to implement a gain stage in the app before the signal hits the meters? So in settings you could manually set the amplitude, if desired.
I will add the trim setting very soon. I don't really recommend this, but at the moment you can sort of hack your way to doing that by opening the settings file at "~/Library/Preferences/MiniMeters/settings.json" and adding or changing the line that says "trim": 0 to the decibel value you'd like to gain the signal by. The modified audio section should look like this:
"audio": { "buffer_size": 4096, "channel_left": 0, "channel_right": 1, "device": "Desktop Audio", "trim": 0 },I might play around with that when I have some downtime, thanks!
If I make a copy of the unaltered .json file, and put that back before updating to the new version (when released) it should technically revert the settings to default, without potentially messing something up in the future install, right?
Yeah you can back up the settings file! Also, unfortunately, I just updated my development machine to 14.2 and am seeing the issue only when using an external audio device. If it's not too much trouble, could you let me know what audio interface you're using on your primary machine? I am going to have to make a report for this to submit to Apple.
Love this tool! It instantly improved my workflow by so much. Thank you for providing this to the community and keeping it updated!
Hi, i just bought minimeters, and when i open the .exe file, it says;
"Windows protected your PC"
"Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk."
Is it safe to run it anyway??
Hey! I understand your apprehension. I would prefer that screen not show up on Windows. MiniMeters is code-signed with an OV certificate and if you click "More info" in that window you will see my personal information that verifies that it is coming from me and not somehow tampered with. If you see that info it should be safe.
Microsoft claims that if enough people download an application that screen will disappear but it appears that the only way I can remove it is by switching certificate types. I will do that in the near future, but it requires me to spend quite a bit of money so I have been putting it off. Sorry about the inconvenience.
every time I try to buy I get this message...
There was an error processing your payment:
If you are unsure, please contact itch.io support with the above message.
any fix?
Unfortunately I cannot help you. But it looks like the message itself tells you to contact itch. :)
Hi, I've really been enjoying MiniMeters, I was just wondering one thing:
Both the Waveform meter and Stereo meter share the same colour scheme representing low, mid and high frequencies, yet the only options for the Spectrum analyser are the static colour line in FFT mode and the seemingly arbitrary red/magenta colours in "bar/both" modes, I think it would be awesome and quite intuitive if the colours of the bars in the bar/both mode followed the same colour transitions of the frequency ranges like the other meters. :)
Anyway, just a thought, keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for the suggestion. I have considered the same thing, but the "arbitrary" colors are simply assigned to volume. You can customize them in the theme settings if you'd like.
Love your app. I've only had it two days and it's already improved my production workflow considerably.
Four feature requests:
Also, why is the Hz ceiling fixed? A lot of us are working at >96khz, and definitely producing/manipulating frequencies beyond the current window limit.
- Neb
Hey! Thanks for the suggestions. MiniMeters is meant to remain simple and the end goal is approachability. I don't want to increase the complexity too much.
1. In the 1.0 release there will be a far more customizable layout system.
2. This is is a good idea but I don't really have plans to add this at the moment.
3. Also a great idea. I will consider something along these lines.
4. I don't personally use those in my music making workflow so I have no real baseline idea of how or why to add this. If you have any resources that will help me understand the usefulness of this I can consider using it.
As for higher sample rates, I will likely add 48khz support as that is commonly used in film. For higher sampling rates it might be best to look elsewhere. MiniMeters is meant to simply show you what you're hearing and to provide a useful too during music creation.
Hey, your product is very user-friendly! If the "Correlation Meter" function is added, it may be even better!
Would love this!! Then MiniMeters could completely replace SPAN lol
Hey, would it be possible to implement a way to change the speed of the waveform like I've visualized here? I was sound designing kicks, and thought it would be nice to see the kick's shape with a bit more detail, which could probably be achieved by making the waveform move faster.
It's currently like this in the first image, but I manually slowed down my sample to get more detail on the waveform in the second image. It could maybe work with the oscilloscope too. Also this annoying uneven sub is exactly what I'm trying to work on lol.
Anyways thanks for making this amazing tool, I haven't yet bought the full version, but I am planning to do so once I've used this for a bit longer.
Yeah! I already have that in the v1.0 update which I am actively working on. Thank you for the suggestion.
Also, it would be great to create a button that, when checked, This information will show up only by hovering the mouse because it is disturbing when it is always there as a default.
Another great option would be to create an option to play with its speed because, from what I see now, it is jumping very fast from one peak to another, and it isn't easy to read because it shows the info only for half a second or so. Maybe the solution would be to tell it to read only every second or so and not every bit—just an idea.
1) It would be great if you will create the option to view the waveform and history in different modules because then it would be broader and clearer.
2) It would be great if you will create the option to set up the width of the waveform because now that's the only width that the waveform can be, and it is very hard to notice dynamic changes like that (the track or master volume does not affect it, which is a good thing).
Thanks for the suggestions. I am aware of the desire to move them to separate modules. I will consider options on how to do that correctly in v1.0. I have a few ideas how to make that user-friendly.
When you refer to width I'm unsure if you mean volume or speed. I plan to expand on both of those options in v1.0 regardless. But any insight would be helpful.
Thank you, I'm not a plugin expert, but it seems like that knob of input gain will be the solution. It should not affect the sound level in DAW, only the graphic level in the plugin.
In addition to the above, it would be great, but it may be a bit complex to create, a button that when checked, will automatically normalize the last maximum peak level and put it in the zero. This will ensure that the plugin width is used all the way and that we are not missing some peaks that go above the zero line—just an idea. Maybe you will figure it better.
i want refund this program it doesnt work.
I bought the program because the demo ran well
When running the program, the mouse moves, but the screen stops and The program doesn't even show up
Hello, I assume you also sent a message in the Discord this morning. I am sorry you're running into issues. If you are indeed the same individual I am willing to provide support or a refund there. If you would prefer to reach out to itch.io for a refund you can do it via this page: https://itch.io/support
As I also said in the Discord server: I would recommend trying these steps if you have not already tried them: https://minimeters.app/help/behaving/
I can also provide any support needed. I am sure we can get this working on your machine, but I would just need your PC Specs, and OS to get started there. I am willing to help here, Discord, or via my contact email: support@minimeters.app
After I opened the program, it couldn't be found at all on my desktop, but it is currently running and can be captured using OBS. May I ask what is the solution? The same result applies to reinstalling after uninstallation.
Hey, sorry you're running into this issue. This usually happens after removing a monitor that was plugged in and had MiniMeters on it. If you follow the steps here it should correct it: https://minimeters.app/help/behaving/
Afterwards, make sure "Reposition Offscreen Windows" is enabled in the settings and it should no longer happen. Let me know if you need additional help!
Just wanted to say big ups for your product. Honestly been a game changer for me. I have been highly recommending it to all my other fellow producers. really looking forward to what you bring to V1. Glad to have a notification with lots of updates.
I have a small request, not sure if this is possible in your current version. But It would be nice to be able to see a clear distinction to M/S. For example please see the attached screenshot of Span for an example Purple for Mid and pink for Side
Thanks again for your work and I look forward to your future updates. BeNNs.
Hey! You can definitely edit the color of each line but there is not an option for backgrounds that match at the moment. Take a look at the Light_Shard theme. It looks like the following:
You can also create your own theme: https://minimeters.app/help/theming/
Hello,
Can you please show instructions on changing the colors like in the Image above? I just downloaded the last version, and I don't have the option to change the colors like in the Image. And I want to stay on direct theme while doing it.
Hey! You can change the colors by copying the Direct.txt theme file to a new file like HzHz.txt and adding the following lines:
You an access the file by following the directions here: https://minimeters.app/help/theming/ Make sure to rename the file as Direct.txt gets overwritten at launch.
Much appreciated!
I am a windows user If I try to change the audio device now, the program closes, but I don't know how to solve this.
Hey, sorry you’re running into this. I few other Windows users pointed this out to me but I have not been able to replicate it on my Windows machines. Could you tell me what audio devices you’re using on you PC? If you’d like to reach out for more personalized support you can email me at support@minimeters.app
I’m actively looking for a solution here so any info would be helpful. Thank you!
I'm using cubase 10.5 and audio interface is RME babyface pro
I hope my answer will be good help to you
Thank you. I just released an update yesterday. Could you try deleting your settings and updating to the new version?
https://minimeters.app/help/behaving/
Hey, so im having the issue where I pin the plugin and everything works fine. But as soon as i full screen my DAW, (Ableton 11) it disappears and i cant seem to get it back on with my DAW being full screen. Any help? Cheers!
Hey! Unfortunately on both macOS and Windows there are restrictions on apps overlaying full screen apps. For instance, on macOS they only allow menubar apps to overlay fullscreen apps. I’m working on that but it will take some time.
Thanks! I was just making sure I wasnt the only one with this issue. BTW works perfect on WINDOWS/PC. Only having this issue with MACOS. Besides that, this plugin is awesome and great customer service :)
That would be amazing :) Love the plugin!
same is happening to me I got it today any updates brotha
Unfortunately fixing this issue requires me to do a lot rewriting. I have it done in v1.0 but that is still going to take some time.
I just bought it, but I can only run it via the "Application" from the folder where I downloaded it. How do I run it as a VST within Ableton? I've moved the .dll files to my VST3 folder but it doesn't appear after rescanning it. Any ideas?
Hey! Sorry you're running into this issue. I'm not sure what .dll files you've copied to your VST3 folder but VST3 plugins have the .vst3 extension and often appear like folders.
Please try running the installer again to ensure the plugin has installed correct. It should install to C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 (Steinberg Article about this). And make sure your DAW is looking for VST3 plugins in that folder. If you're still having issues let me know.
- Joe
I just reinstalled it in the correct location and the only VST3 file included is the MiniMetersServer.vst3 file. Is that what should be happening or should there be another file in the folder once I've installed it?
That's correct! If you open that plugin in your DAW and then select "MiniMeters Plugin" from the "Audio Device" section in MiniMeters' settings page you should be receiving your DAWs audio correctly.
Hi! I just bought MiniMeters and I wanted to run it on my 2nd monitor which is 1080x1920 and it's flipped vertically, but I can't seem to get minimeters narrow enough to fit. I didn't know if there is a way to shrink it more, or what I would really like to see is a way to put it on the left side and have it run up and down vertically instead of horizontal. Thank you for your time!
Hey! Sorry you’re running into that limitation. As of the current version (0.8.12) you can pop out the modules and create whatever layout you’d like. I believe disabling some modules may also allow for it to shrink more. v1.0 will have more customizable layouts that may suit your needs though.
Awesome I will definitely try that! Can't wait to see what yall do for v1.0!
Hi!
Have an external GPU connected to my mac mini but i'm experiencing severe lag issues on the UI.
External GPU is RX550, without it it's fine.
I have Hardware Accelleration available, both HEVC and H264 codecs.
Thanks!
Hey! I'm sorry you're running into issues. I'm curious what it looks like on your end as I don't have an external GPU to test with at the moment.
MiniMeters does send quite a bit of data to the GPU every frame and I assume the latency of an external GPU is the bottleneck here. I am rewriting the graphics side of things right now with the intention of better supporting external GPUs and graphics adapters without acceleration which should improve your situation. Unfortunately, I don't have an ETA at the moment but I am aiming for the next few months. If you cannot wait you're welcome to reach out at support (at) minimeters.app
- Joe
Thanks, sent you an email!
I'm unsure if this is a bug or user error, but I have Ableton open on my main monitor (screen 1), and MiniMeters open on my laptop screen (screen 2). When I remove my main monitor display, it shifts everything to the laptop screen (screen 1). Now, if I open MiniMeters again, for a split second, it opens in the top left corner and then hides itself, almost as if MiniMeters still thinks there are two screens connected. I've tried using Win + Arrow Keys to move MiniMeters, but it seems to have no effect.
Hey! Sorry you're running into this. I previously had it automatically move windows back on screen when a display was disconnected, but a related issue caused me to default to turning that off. This will be fixed in the next update (0.8.13) which will be out soon.
In the meantime if you're the type to mess around with settings files you're welcome to navigate to `%AppData\MiniMeters`, open `settings.json` and add or set `"reposition_offscreen_windows" to true` Alternatively feel free to reach out on the MiniMeters Discord and I can help you modify the file, or modify it and send it back to you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Is there anyway to switch it from LUFs to DB mode?
At the moment (v0.8.12) there is no way to switch which value is displayed in the Peak/LUFS meter. That will likely come in the future.
Me parece lo mejor!! si ya midiese el pico maximo en dBs y te dijera la correlacion estereo seria mas perfecto de lo que es ya, mis enhorabuena un salud0!!
This is the plugin I've been looking for all this time.
I think it would be great if the colors could be customized separately and saved as own theme. so I can change the theme according to the mood of the music genre that I make because color is very influential in finding ideas in my opinion.
Anyway, thx for making this. You're awesome 🔥
Thanks for picking it up! You can absolutely make your own theme! https://minimeters.app/help/theming/
Hey, I love MiniMeters thank you for developing it!
I would love to see a stereo spectroscope like Goodhertz CanOpener. Since the RGB Setting in the Stereometer is hard to read, honestly. You could rotate it sideways and have L up and R down. Just a suggestion!
Minimeters doesn't seem to be working at all for me OS 10.14.6 Mojave. Went through all the different troubleshooting help, and read through all these comments for any potential solutions. Can't pick up any system audio and it isn't popping up in my plugin list in Pro Tools either, and minimeters is in the correct installation path for CLAP, Components, and VST3. Will keep giving it a go on the demo, but this is holding me back from purchasing.
Hey! Sorry you’re running into issues. Pro Tools doesn’t support VST3 or CLAP. Unless you’re using a wrapper it definitely will not show up. I am looking into building an AAX version for Pro Tools user.
As for picking up system audio: that is only supported on macOS Ventura or newer. Apple only recently added support for that in Ventura: for alternative options see here: https://minimeters.app/help/audio-macos/
Let me know if you still have issues or questions.
Apologies about the OS confusion, that's my fault. Okay good to know, I guess I got a little to excited about this and hoped it would work on my system.
Can it be used with FL Studio ZgameEditor visualizer? I want to use it overlaid with images.
I’m not sure of the capabilities of ZGameEditor. I have not experimented with it yet. But if the demo works in the way you expect then the full version should as well.
Is it possible to float the window on top for m1 mac?
Yes! Click the "Pin To Top" button in the top toolbar.
Thanks!
hey guys I have a question i'm on 8.3 and want to update to 8.12 but when I put my email in it says theres no email with that account... :( help i want to update
I believe I already reached out to you on Twitter, but if anyone else has the same issue please visit the following link: https://minimeters.app/help/find-updates/
Hi, I encounted a problem recently where I am unable to find the minimeters window. When I open the application it just shows when i hover over it but it is no where to be found on my screen. Is there a way to solve this issue?
Hey! Sorry you're running into this. Likely the window is simply offscreen. This happens when display layouts change. An easy way to fix would be to follow these instructions. This may also work however I have not personally tried it: Move offscreen windows back on screen.
You could also open the settings.json file and adjust the window position there, but the above steps should fix it. I'm looking into a better solution for this as on some systems repositioning the window automatically when it was offscreen would cause a hang so I removed that in a previous version.
Alright got it to work Thanks!
Hey! I recently downloaded the demo and I saw that it said that the demo was limited for only waveform and luf. But mine just says currently set as primary instance. I don't know if its just the demo or if I put it in ableton wrong. Just wanted to make sure before buying but it looks awesome!
Hey! Thanks for trying the demo. It sounds to me like you inserted the plug-in but did not open up the app. More Info.
If you’re on macOS it should be in the Applications folder, and on Windows you can search for it in your start menu. Let me know if that helps.
wow i feel stupid, thanks so much getting the full one now!