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Hi, I encounted a problem recently where I am unable to find the minimeters window. When I open the application it just shows when i hover over it but it is no where to be found on my screen. Is there a way to solve this issue?

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Hey! Sorry you're running into this. Likely the window is simply offscreen. This happens when display layouts change. An easy way to fix would be to follow these instructions. This may also work however I have not personally tried it: Move offscreen windows back on screen.

You could also open the settings.json file and adjust the window position there, but the above steps should fix it. I'm looking into a better solution for this as on some systems repositioning the window automatically when it was offscreen would cause a hang so I removed that in a previous version.

Alright got it to work Thanks!

Hey! I recently downloaded the demo and I saw that it said that the demo was limited for only waveform and luf. But mine just says currently set as primary instance. I don't know if its just the demo or if I put it in ableton wrong. Just wanted to make sure before buying but it looks awesome!

Hey! Thanks for trying the demo. It sounds to me like you inserted the plug-in but did not open up the app. More Info.

If you’re on macOS it should be in the Applications folder, and on Windows you can search for it in your start menu. Let me know if that helps. 

wow i feel stupid, thanks so much getting the full one now!

Hello!I believe Minimeters is a very user-friendly and useful tool. However , I have encountered a problem. After reinstalling my computer, it crashes every time I switch audio devices  (the devices used are the same as before reinstalling). I am a Windows user, and even after deleting the Minimeters folder in Appdata, the problem persists. Is there a solution for this issue?

Hey. Sorry you're running into issues. I had one other user report this issue with a particular audio device. I would appreciate if you could reach out either here or at support@minimeters.app and let me know what audio device you are using. I can probably send you a test version once I identify the issue.

Thank you for answering my question.

I am using the Audient's ID 4 product and it's drives are  the two options at the bottom of the screenshot. The computer's driver is Senary Audio.

 

I am not sure if it is a problem with the audio device. Because today no matter which option I switch to (such as switching to the Minimeters plugin), it will crash directly. Now I can only keep it on the default output.  o(╥﹏╥)o

Yeah I believe it is a bug on my end. I will look into it ASAP!

Thank you for your hard work. Minimeters is truly an excellent tool and we look forward to seeing it improve even further in the future! \(^o^)/~

Hey ray971023! I believe the version I released today (0.8.12) has addressed the issue. Please try it out and let me know!

Hey there! Vision impaired user here. In the future are you potentially looking into readability/font size adjustments? I like using these a lot, but things like the Spectrum just look pretty and aren't entirely functional as the font size is so small. I would also like to be able to hover my mouse in the spectrum to just have a line follow along the top with a frequency box for where my mouse is--A condensed 2.xkHz shortening rather than full base Hz would improve readability too. Also with a large mouse cursor, it obscures the label when you click on any of the modules. Colour fill for the spectrum would also help a little with readability too.

Many thanks, and awesome work!

Hey! This is something I should definitely spend more time considering.

I will be sure to add font size adjustments in a future version. I had also not considered a condensed read out of frequency nor the inability to read the output with a larger cursor. There will also be a lot more options for overall scale and changing how modules are displayed in v1.0. Thank you for the feedback!

Found this a couple days ago thanks to Darby and his song ''Everything'' through TikTok, and... these kinds of softwares are right up my alley!

I love Rainmeter, Wallpaper Engine and all of those softwares mainly for the visualizers, so again this is right up my alley! <3
I immediately downloaded the demo just to see how it worked, then i immediately bought the full version.

I personally would've loved more modules, visualizers, etc though but either way it's still amazing!

Also, one last thing is that i thought i ran into a bug where i couldn't resize the ''Stereometer'' module but that resize ''bar'' or whatever only shows up depending on the size of the softwares window. Hard to explain, but hopefully it's understandable. lol

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At the moment of writing (v0.8.11) I am working on v1.0 which will likely have a better user experience for the Stereometer. But currently resizing it is only enabled past a certain size as you said as it will simply clip off the edges losing you some information. The Stereometer has a fixed aspect ratio of either 2:1 or 1:1 depending on the mode. 

I am curious what other modules you're looking for in here?

Yeah, alright then i completely understood why you chose to do what you did with the Stereometer.

I honestly don't really know what other modules i'm looking for, but maybe like the old Windows Media Player visualizers with like ''trippy'' visuals moving to the sounds, music, etc?
All of the current modules are still really amazing and satisfying though, so i've got zero complaints!

portable versions? i'd love to use it at college but i dont have admin rights to install there lol

Hey! Unfortunately, I am not distributing a portable version at the moment. You are welcome to extract the installer yourself and use it that way, but your milage may vary. While I have not tried them myself I expect any of the many "Innosetup extractors" that show up when I google it should likely work.

Please make an unclickable and variable opacity option.

This way you can have it on the background over any window.

Hi, I am currently running Mojave on my mac and it says its compatible however, I am not getting any signal to minimeters in my DAW. Is it still compatible with Mojave or is there something I am missing? Thanks 

Hey! Sorry you're running into issues. It should be fully compatible with Mojave. Are you using the MiniMetersServer Plug-In in your DAW to send audio into MiniMeters? Or another audio routing means?

Let me know if this page helps you as well. https://minimeters.app/help/audio-macos/

I love this app, but I've been having some serious issues when switching it from my 1080p monitor to my 4k monitor.
when it crosses from one screen to another it freezes my entire pc and crashes the app. is this a known issue?

Hey. Sorry you're running into this. Unfortunately, you're not alone. I am actively looking to fix this issue. However there may be a workaround that will fix this for you.

Please open your settings file and add the following line somewhere in the "window" section.

"display_scaling_enabled": false,

 If you need more help please reach out on the Discord. I will likely have this fixed in the next update.

Love the app! Is there a way to record the audio/visuals from it besides doing a screen capture on a Mac? Want to save it using the internal audio from the computer

Hey! You can use a number of ways to get audio into MiniMeters. Here is the help page for audio routing: Audio Routing: macOS

Gotcha! I'm already able to get audio into MiniMeters, I meant more for recording the minimeters screen and audio to save into a separate video to post for example

Ahh sorry I misunderstood what you were asking. At the moment there is not an internal way to video record MiniMeters. I would like to get that added in the future. 

What I personally do is use the native screen capture on macOS with CMD-Shift-5 and then just add the audio later in an editor. But OBS captures desktop audio on macOS if you're using macOS Ventura or later which might be the most straightforward option.

In order to use the standalone app on a Mac, it asks to "allow the application to record the content on your screen and audio, even while using other application"

Where do these recordings get saved? and do we need to delete these to avoid unnecessary memory clutter?


Thank you in advance for your help!

Hey! Thanks for reaching out. It's not "Recording" per se, but it is instead just using the new Screen Recording API to get the computer's audio in realtime. It will only use a small amount of memory and only while MiniMeters is running.

For the record I am not even setting up the video side of the recording just grabbing the audio. More info here

Is this new version laggy for anyone else? running macos 10.15.7

Hey herryfreer, 

I had a Mac user with AMD Graphics report an issue with the latest version. Particularly lag related to using pop out windows.  Does that line up with your experience? If so, I’m looking into a fix. 

If not, could you open MiniMeters, click CMD-D, and send a screenshot of the window that pops up? Thanks.

Yo yeah I'm having the same issue with the pop-out windows being laggy. But I don't have AMD Graphics I think? Not sure though I have Intel Iris Plus Graphics 1536MB if thats what you mean

Alright thanks for the reply. Sorry you're running into this. If you could open MiniMeters, click CMD-D and get me a screenshot of the that screen it would help a a lot. I'm trying to figure out a way to replicate the issue here since none of my Macs are exhibiting this  behavior.

Also the 'Legacy Versions.zip' includes older versions that you can use in the meantime!

great tool

Hi,

I've downloaded the Mac demo but when I open it in Logic, it says "currently set as primary instance".  What does that mean?

Hey! You need to open the MiniMeters.app in your  Applications folder. MiniMeters is standalone but connects to the plugin to route the audio. More Info here: https://minimeters.app/help/minimetersserver-setup/

Hello,

I purchased the plugin and download everything to Mac for use with Ableton. Unfortunately when I go to use the plugin (MiniMetersServer) It simply says "currently sending audio to MiniMeters" But Nothing is being displayed. 

I tried to go onto Discord for help solving this issue but when clicking on the link it says "the invite is no longer available".

I do not have twitter either.

I would appreciate help in solving this issue.

Thank you,

Hey, sorry you're running into the issue. I just tried the discord link and it appears to still be working, but no worries.

I have had a couple macOS users run into this issue with the plugin. I am working on an update that will likely address the issues however you can test if it's working by opening the plugin in Ableton, opening your web browser, and navigating to http://localhost:8422/data. If it doesn't load any information then likely something is blocking the connection.

Hey this should be fixed as of 0.8.6. Please let me know if you have any issues with the new version.

can I install this on my 2 computers or there is a single license only?

You can install this on as many of your computers as you'd like.

another question, will the future updates cost or by buying it once you have a life-time update?

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At the time of writing this message MiniMeters is still in "public beta" so it's not even at 1.0 yet (0.8.5). You will receive updates from now through 1.x.x. I do not have plans for a v2.0 at the moment so likely you will continue to receive updates indefinitely.

Let me just start by saying this is worth every penny. I'm currently using it as part of my live streaming setup by capturing the window with OBS. I'm using a lot of Nvidia codecs for my streaming and i noticed that minimeters is taking up a lot of GPU usage. I'd really love to see some optimization in that department in the future.

Hey! Thanks for picking it up. I am constantly working on lowering CPU and GPU usage MiniMeters. However, MiniMeters does have to send quite a bit of data the GPU new data every frame to keep up to date with the audio. So I can get a better idea of what you're experiencing what GPU are you currently using? What is your FPS limit in MiniMeters? and what GPU percentage are you seeing? Thanks!

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Best purchase I've made for productions in a long time.  

a suggestion: would it be possible to have a system tray setting? i.e. making it so the application isn't on the taskbar I use Alt Tab a fair bit and I cant see a reason why It needs to be on the taskbar / showing in the alt tab view as its always on screen. If needed adding the option Show / Hide option on the system tray icon when right clicking.

Thanks for making such an amazing piece of kit! 

I love this app, it really lets me understand every part of the music or sounds I listen to and what effects they used. I used to use an app called Friture that to do this but it’s outdated and not in active development anymore, plus this software is faster and more configurable. It’s well worth the price for how polished it is.


One feature I’d love to see is being able to orient the spectrum analyzer vertically so it lines up with the spectrogram scrolling horizontally. Stemming off that it would also be nice to have the option for the frequency bars to go past the FFT line when both are shown like it did in previous versions.

Thank you for making this, its truly amazing!

BEST TEN BUX I EVER SPENT

the vst works in vcv host but not in ableton :((

Hey I'm sorry you're running into this issue. I may be able to more easily help you on Discord or Twitter DMs if you are able to reach out. The next update addresses some bugs regarding the plugin and I may be able to send you an early build to see if that addresses the issue.

the latest updated fixed it :)) thanks alot <3

I purchased this last year and my PC crashed, is there a way to DL it again? Thanks, Peter

Hey you can either go back to the original email that was sent when you purchased it and click the download link, or if you made this itch.io account when you bought it it should have a download link at the top of the page.

i can't find the email, i think I must have been using the demo version. I'll look to buy it, it's only a tenna, cheers

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Just bought this. Such a fantastic piece of software I'm having so much fun with it.

Would love to see layout save slots and an option to start on windows startup for the future. I've got it set up (ridiculously) so that my entire vertical left monitor is covered in the meters and it's so much fun, BUT I would like to be able to quickly toggle between a showy display and something I actually use when producing lol.

Also love your tunes! Been a fan since Trust In Me! : )

Hey ! Just purchased it, i'm really impressed it's a great app (maybe the most practical meter I've ever used)

A few things could make this even better:

1/ Be able to set the frequency ranges for the RGB in the Waveform

2/ Be able to display the full audio channel in the Waveform (like in a DJ app - see rekordbox display for instance)

3/ Add a correlation meter with the stereometer + frequency ranges for the RGB

4/ Add a cross (instead of a vertical line) in the spectrum analyzer to display both frequency & dB level   

Hey! Thanks for the suggestions. Could you please elaborate what you mean by #2?

Hi, just bought it and I'm really impressed. Just  two Ideas for future versions. I'm on Windows 11 and work with Ableton and it's kinda pain to fit Ableton and Minimeters on the screen correctly because minimeters doesn't interact with the Ableton Window and you have to manually resize Ableton every time. Is there maybe a possibility to improve this? Also it would be super cool to set frequency ranges for the RGB option in the Stereometer so you can see that everything under a certain value is mono ect.

Unfortunately I cannot snap the Ableton window below or above MiniMeters. What I generally recommend is using Microsoft’s own PowerToys to set a custom snap region for Ableton.

Being able to set the crossovers for the RGB modes is going to be added in the future. Thanks for the feedback!

Thank you so much for the advice, I'll definitively try that out. And I can't wait for the crossover feature. Keep up the great Work!

Oh, I just bought this amazing tool and thought it will work with everything but realize that it doesnt work with ASIO drivers :(((( this is very sad... for me its no point? Do you have refund? 

Hey! Sorry about this. You may be able to get the refund via this link.

That being said, I may add the ability to capture ASIO inputs in the future but depending on your setup that may not be sufficient. I believe the limitations with ASIO are that I cannot capture system or individual application audio when it is used with ASIO. ASIO connects directly from the application to the soundcard. I do include a VST plugin that routes the audio from your application to MiniMeters. That was added so it could be used with ASIO drivers. Is that not sufficient for your use case? I'd love to help make MiniMeters work more for your setup in the future.

Hi, I would like to purchase this, but on MacOS with Sonarworks SoundID, I'm not seeing any meters showing up even when I have SoundID selected as the input/source. The only time I see meters is when the DAW plugin pushes out to MiniMeters. Here's my system.

Does the full version work with this setup? Thanks!

MacOS 10.15.7 Intel 10-Core / SSD / 72 GB RAM / 16 GB VRAM / Sonarworks SoundID Reference 5.2.3 Build 2 / Universal Audio Apollo x6

I'm not sure if I'll get notified of a reply, I will check back in an hour. Thanks!

I figured out the issue. For some reason it seems that "iMac Microphone Access" is required. 

Thinking, I don't even use the "iMac Mic", I disabled this - does this make sense on your end? 

Works great now - nice work, hommie!

Hey! Apple calls the audio permissions "Microphone Permissions" as that's probably more understandable to the average person. I am glad you got it working.  If you need more help or have any questions I'm usually faster to respond on Twitter or Discord!

Can you please add the possibility to extend the size to 2400 pix?

Hey! Could you please elaborate on where you're running into this issue?

There is no limit on the window size. I just tested here by setting the width to 7000+ px wide.

Really great app and not expensive.


Well done!

Using minimeters in ableton 11 and it keeps saying underrun by buffer samples in preferences which shows nothing running through the modules. Underrun won't go away no matter which samples i choose. If I load up a new fresh project it still won't work. Weird cuz it was working when i first bought it but started doing this out of nowhere. Im in ableton 11 on an m1 macbook pro

Hey Erik! Thanks for letting me know. The underrun meter is very much overactive in the current version (0.7.1). If you're not seeing visual glitches (waveform has gaps, or stereometer is flashing) then do not worry about it. I am changing the behavior in the next update (0.8.0) and this shouldn't show anymore.

wow love it so much BIG THANKS !

Hi! I'm really enjoying this tool. The only problem is that everytime I try to open the MiniMetersServer my ableton crashes. 

Oh thats not good! Could you tell me your system specs, Ableton version and if you are trying to load the VST3 or AU?

System Specs: MacOS 10.13.6 / Intel Core i5 / 16 Gb SSD

Ableton 10.1.1

Currently trying with AU but VST3 gives the same problem. 

I will pull out my 10.13 machine and test it today.

If you have a moment and could get me the error report I would really appreciate it:
When Ableton crashes it should show a crash report screen with a bunch of text (called a stacktrace). Either email it to contact@directmusic.me, send it in the MiniMeters Discord, or upload it to a pastebin and link it here.

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You can actually toggle some of them off and on using this section of the preferences menu:


Hi love the plugin! Are there any plans to  add a 'stereo' in the waveforms section instead of just left, right, mid and stereo? 

Yes! 0.7.2 will mostly be bug fixes and some tweaks but you can expect that in whatever follows that version!

Badass, thanks for the heads up! 

hi, love this, so i have the demo and it keeps crashing each time i try to open up preferences 

Hey! Sorry about that. I have tested the demo on Windows 10 and macOS 12.1 and am not seeing that issue. If possible, please share your system specs!

Also if you could try the steps mentioned here that would be fantastic: https://minimeters.app/help/#behaving

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just tried that it still just crashes when i try to open up preferences :/ hopefully if there is a new update it will work.. but my specs are Windows 10, 32 gb ram, MSI motherboard, Intel Core i7-7700k  CPU @ 4.20 GHz.. thanks for trying to help out:)

I am working on a new update but I will need to figure out why that would be happening to be able fix the issue. Could you also tell me what graphics card you are currently using? Thanks.

Ah yes ok, i understand, and it is a NVIDIA GeForce GT 730

Alright thank you. I will experiment and see if I can find the source of this issue! Sorry again you're experiencing this.

Love this!  One small suggestion, it would be cool to have solid lines that denote where the waveform starts clipping at the upper and lower ends of the waveform so its more like a waveform sandwich rather than a small amount of blank space above and below the waveform :)

Hey! If your audio is configured correctly it should not have any space above or below the waveform. Everything above 0dB should be cut off fully by the edge of the window.

I have another small request that anybody has yet. a realtime BPM detector....Thank you

Thanks for the suggestion! I've considered it and may implement it in the future, however expect the next few releases to be bug fixes and performance improvements.

I love this. I can't wait to see how you develop on it. One suggestion I would have: could we set a hotkey to hide/show minimeters? Like something like Alt + I or something, I love to keep it pinned but need to hide it quickly every now and then. All the best~

Hey! That's a good suggestion. I have looked into adding something like this and maybe will in the future. This does add some complexity so in the meantime I would suggest AutoHotkey if you're on Windows and perhaps Hammerspoon on macOS. If you hop into the Discord server and ping me I can give you a AHK or Hammerspoon script to do what you need!

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